Comments on: Awesome New Infosec Class http://dmiessler.com/blog/awesome-new-infosec-class Searching for a universal theory of everything... Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:52:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6-bleeding2 By: Final Assemblers goings on » Blog Archive » Quick scan of the net - final assembler http://dmiessler.com/blog/awesome-new-infosec-class#comment-132127 Final Assemblers goings on » Blog Archive » Quick scan of the net - final assembler Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:58:48 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/awesome-new-infosec-class#comment-132127 <p>[...] http://dmiessler.com/blog/awesome-new-infosec-classBut damn, not anymore. I think most people learn assembler, Java, etc. and that stuff quickly atrophies unless it’s part of your daily work. Oh, and that’s just to get in to the class… You should see the final. … [...]</p> [...] http://dmiessler.com/blog/awesome-new-infosec-classBut damn, not anymore. I think most people learn assembler, Java, etc. and that stuff quickly atrophies unless it’s part of your daily work. Oh, and that’s just to get in to the class… You should see the final. … [...]

]]> By: Steven G. Harms http://dmiessler.com/blog/awesome-new-infosec-class#comment-131833 Steven G. Harms Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:12:55 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/awesome-new-infosec-class#comment-131833 <p>Note that the class is 484, that's usually upper division close to PhD candidate level: this course is at the end of many, many credit-hours of classes.</p> Note that the class is 484, that’s usually upper division close to PhD candidate level: this course is at the end of many, many credit-hours of classes.

]]> By: randy http://dmiessler.com/blog/awesome-new-infosec-class#comment-131509 randy Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:50:55 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/awesome-new-infosec-class#comment-131509 <p>Maybe it's because I just graduated with a BS in Computer Engineering in 2006, but these topics are all thoroughly covered in an undergrad degree. Could it be that the audience the class is geared towards are fairly recent graduates that are looking to start a Masters?</p> <p>I'm working on a Master's in Computer Security at DePaul University in Chicago and they never come right out and say that those skills are required, but if you look at the topics taught in the prerequisite phase they are identical. </p> <p>I'd also argue that the people at the very TOP of InfoSec are no longer "in the trenches" so to speak. They are more business oriented now often overseeing the new generation of analysts; focusing on overall vision and planning for the department. When they first started out I'd venture they were more technical than business savvy. As their careers progressed they shifted towards more business than tech savvy. Don't think I'm saying they don't know their tech still, because they do, but as you said, if you don't use it everyday it slips away bit by bit. They are likely excellent today because of the strong technical base they built on over the years.</p> <p>If the class is targeting young professionals in the InfoSec field I think the requirements are spot on. It'll help build a solid technical base of understanding that can then be built on as they progress.</p> <p>Since when can your understanding of the systems you're tasked with protecting be too thorough?</p> Maybe it’s because I just graduated with a BS in Computer Engineering in 2006, but these topics are all thoroughly covered in an undergrad degree. Could it be that the audience the class is geared towards are fairly recent graduates that are looking to start a Masters?

I’m working on a Master’s in Computer Security at DePaul University in Chicago and they never come right out and say that those skills are required, but if you look at the topics taught in the prerequisite phase they are identical.

I’d also argue that the people at the very TOP of InfoSec are no longer “in the trenches” so to speak. They are more business oriented now often overseeing the new generation of analysts; focusing on overall vision and planning for the department. When they first started out I’d venture they were more technical than business savvy. As their careers progressed they shifted towards more business than tech savvy. Don’t think I’m saying they don’t know their tech still, because they do, but as you said, if you don’t use it everyday it slips away bit by bit. They are likely excellent today because of the strong technical base they built on over the years.

If the class is targeting young professionals in the InfoSec field I think the requirements are spot on. It’ll help build a solid technical base of understanding that can then be built on as they progress.

Since when can your understanding of the systems you’re tasked with protecting be too thorough?

]]> By: Tim F. http://dmiessler.com/blog/awesome-new-infosec-class#comment-131502 Tim F. Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:28:33 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/awesome-new-infosec-class#comment-131502 <p>Are you serious? The only requirement <em>I'd</em> have trouble with there is writing debugging tools in Assembly (which I could probably learn without too much trouble). Pretty much anyone that went to Georgia Tech and took their education seriously would have no problem with these tasks.</p> Are you serious? The only requirement I’d have trouble with there is writing debugging tools in Assembly (which I could probably learn without too much trouble). Pretty much anyone that went to Georgia Tech and took their education seriously would have no problem with these tasks.

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